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Some of which are quite dangerous. Either the JSTOR or PACER incidents could have killed any associated small nonprofit with legal bills. (JSTOR's annual revenue is something like 53x that of SIAI.)
As fun as it is to watch Swartz's activities (from a safe distance), I would not want such antics conducted on a website I enjoy reading and would like to see continue.
Wait, are you saying this aaronsw is the same guy as the guy currently being (tragically, comically) prosecuted for fraud? That's kinda cool!
What are the JSTOR and PACER incidents?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz#Controversies
I don't think it's fair - I think it's a bit motivated - to mention these as mysterious controversies and antics, without also mentioning that his actions could reasonably be interpreted as heroic. I was applauding when I read the JSTOR incident, and only wish he'd gotten away with downloading the whole thing and distributing it.
I agree they were heroic and good things, and I was disgusted when I looked into JSTOR's financial filings (not that I was happy with the WMF either).
But there's a difference between admiring the first penguin off the ice and noting that this is a good thing to do, and wanting to be that penguin or near enough that penguin that one might fall off as well. And this is especially true for organizations.
Even if so, one should still at least mention, in a debate on character, that the controversy in question just happened to be about an attempted heroic good deed.
Did you really just assert that having Swartz post to LessWrong puts SIAI at serious legal and financial risk?
Good grief. You said, 'Aaron's achievements of type X are really awesome and we could use more achivements on LW!' Me: 'But type X stuff is incredibly dangerous and could kill the website or SIAI, and it's a little amazing Swartz has escaped both past X incidents with as apparently little damage as he has*.' You: 'zomg did you just seriously say Swartz posting to LW endangers SIAI?!'
Er, no, I didn't, unless Swartz posting to LW is now the 'actual track record of achievement' that you are vaunting, which seems unlikely. I said his accomplishments like JSTOR or PACER (to name 2 specific examples, again, to make it impossible to misunderstand me, again) endanger any organization or website they are associated with.
EDIT: * Note that I wrote this comment several months before Aaron Swartz committed suicide due to the prosecution over the JSTOR incident.