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Comment author: GLaDOS 11 August 2012 07:37:36AM *  5 points [-]

If you read Steve Sailer's articles, they more-or-less uniformly have negative things to say about people of color.

No actually they don't. At least not about "people of colour" (who still uses language like that, did I step back into the 19th century?). I can't think of say any material that reflects negatively on East Asians and he talks about them more than many other groups. You can make a case most of the material on educational achievement, social dysfunction or crime reflects badly on African Americans, but again that is the data, the alternative is not talking about it at all. And most importantly while some of his commenter are racist he himself I think isn't.

Indeed as strange as it might sound (but not to those who know what he usually blogs about) Steve Sailer seems to genuinely like black people more than average and I wouldn't be surprised at all if a test showed he wasn't biased against them or was less biased than the average white American.

I think a large reason for this is that he is a sports stats buff and talks about it a lot. While talking about say crime rates will probably deplete your warm fuzzy counter for African Americans, talking about say Olympic medals will probably replenish it.

Also for people not familiar with Steve's regular style of writing, I'll endorse another LWer's opinion of him:

Perhaps I'm somewhat biased in my view of him, but generally for example this interesting video seems typical Steve Sailer style.

From a different poster:

VDARE is (somewhat) crimethink by my standards, much of their stuff not passing my Voigt-Kampf test if you know what I mean, but Sailer is anything but a racist. In fact, all the ethical flaws I might even begin to suspect him of are tied to his epistemic habits (such as thinking that his mainstream targets just Hate Truth), and generally he sounds like quite a decent person.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 11 August 2012 03:11:19PM 2 points [-]

From casual reading, I don't get the impression that black middle class and upper class people get noticed by HBDists. Have I missed something?

Comment author: HBDfan 11 August 2012 04:37:43PM 5 points [-]

All groups fall on a distribution. All groups have high and low. "All whites are better than all blacks" or "all blacks are better than all whites" is wrong and obvious racist.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 12 August 2012 03:14:27AM 2 points [-]

I'm talking about availability bias, not theory.