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Comment author: Eugine_Nier 12 August 2012 07:24:04PM 11 points [-]

And, of course, violence against women is endemic. Haidt reports that he "dined with men whose wives silently served us and then retreated to the kitchen." What does he suppose would have happened if one day one of those women refused to serve, or even, after serving, sat down at the table to join the discussion?

What would happen in a western country if someone say refused to pay their taxes? My point is that the implicit threat of violence underlies all societies so, yes, you can make any society look bad by selectively pointing this out.

Comment author: novalis 12 August 2012 09:10:42PM 0 points [-]

The issue I have in this case is not specifically the threat of violence -- it's the unequal treatment of women. Of course, women are more vulnerable to violence as well, so the two are not entirely disconnected.

Also, of course, it's not really possible (yet?) to have a functioning society in which people don't pay their taxes. It is perfectly possible to have a functioning society in which women are more than mere servants.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 12 August 2012 10:16:25PM 3 points [-]

The issue I have in this case is not specifically the threat of violence -- it's the unequal treatment of women

Taxes aren't equal either for example it seems that many politically connected people pay less taxes despite having a higher income then me.

Also, we're you claiming in another thread that an analogous complaint about Islam was the fundamental attribution error?

Comment author: novalis 12 August 2012 10:32:47PM 1 point [-]

Taxes aren't equal either for example it seems that many politically connected people pay less taxes despite having a higher income then me.

That certainly sounds like a problem to me!

Also, we're you claiming in another thread that an analogous complaint about Islam was the fundamental attribution error?

Can you make this clearer? I have no idea what comparison you are drawing.