MBlume comments on Bayes for Schizophrenics: Reasoning in Delusional Disorders - Less Wrong

88 Post author: Yvain 13 August 2012 07:22PM

You are viewing a comment permalink. View the original post to see all comments and the full post content.

Comments (154)

You are viewing a single comment's thread.

Comment author: MBlume 13 August 2012 06:02:38AM *  25 points [-]

Where are we on selectively/temporarily/safely de-activating brain regions? Magnetic field to the RDPC sounds like it'd be <s>fantastically fun at parties</s>extremely informative under the right circumstances.

Comment author: Cosmos 14 August 2012 09:41:51PM 6 points [-]

I had the exact same thought myself back in 2008, so I asked an experimental psych professor about this. At the same, he said that the TMS devices that we had are somewhat wide-area and also induce considerable muscle activation. This doesn't matter very much when studying the occipital lobe, but for the prefrontal cortex you basically start scrunching up the person's face, which is fairly distracting. Maybe worth trying anyway.

I've wanted to get my hands on a TMS device for years. Building one at home does not seem particularly feasible, and the magnetism involved is probably dangerous for nearby metal/electronics...

Comment author: jimmy 15 August 2012 11:13:45PM 8 points [-]

Building one at home does not seem particularly feasible, and the magnetism involved is probably dangerous for nearby metal/electronics...

A few minutes on Google makes this seem very unlikely.

I'm scared as hell to induce currents in my brain without knowing the neurobiology of it, but I do understand the electrical engineering half, so if you want an electromagnet and driver, I'll help you build one.

Comment author: MaoShan 17 August 2012 03:55:20AM 1 point [-]

I had a very similar thought while reading this post. I have the Shakti system, maybe this weekend I'll target my RDPC with various frequencies and see what happens.

Comment author: MaoShan 24 August 2012 02:23:39AM 1 point [-]

Follow-up: I didn't experience anything outside of the typical Shakti effects for me (a feeling similar to a strong nicotine buzz); however, there are many variables to tweak before I declare it a wash. I'll continue to experiment and post the final results somewhere.

Comment author: Document 14 September 2016 04:19:43PM 0 points [-]

Why not here?

Comment author: Yvain 15 August 2012 02:35:49AM 1 point [-]

I don't know the technical differences between TMS and TDCS, but http://flowstateengaged.com/ looks promising.

Comment author: Cosmos 15 August 2012 04:08:06PM 3 points [-]

TDCS isn't depolarizing neurons with magnetism, it doesn't disable brain regions at all. Instead it is running a direct current across them. This appears to permanently increase or decrease its level of excitability. o_O

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 13 August 2012 06:26:58PM 22 points [-]

Note to self: Do not attend any party organized by MBlume without making sure that all participants have signed an iron-clad NDA in advance.

Comment author: Kawoomba 13 August 2012 07:01:16PM 7 points [-]

Don't worry, what happens in la la land stays in la la land.

Comment author: magfrump 14 August 2012 09:30:36PM 6 points [-]

Note to self: Always sign NDAs associated to parties thrown by MBlume.

Comment author: scav 15 August 2012 09:13:45AM 2 points [-]

I think safely de-activating that part of your brain while you are still awake and able to act on your beliefs is a contradiction in terms. I'd want an experienced psychiatric nurse present, personally. And a million quid.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 14 August 2012 10:44:22PM 0 points [-]

Personally, I'm wondering how to use these as brainwashing devices. And then use my brainwashed slaves to TAKE OVER THE WORLD. BWAHAHAHAHAHA.

Sorry, got carried away there for a second. In any case, do you know where I can get my hands on one of these things?

Comment author: handoflixue 22 August 2012 01:45:39AM 1 point [-]

<i>"Magnetic field to the RDPC sounds like it'd be..."</i>

... fairly similar to high doses of psychadelics...?