RichardKennaway comments on Bayes for Schizophrenics: Reasoning in Delusional Disorders - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Risto_Saarelma 13 August 2012 07:33:11AM 17 points [-]

Would a neurologist who has thus far been immersed daily with the fact that all brains can fail in all sorts of interesting ways be hit just as bad with these delusions if given brain damage as someone who might have operated all their life under a sort of naive realism that makes no difference between reality and their brain's picture of it? What about a philosopher with no neurological experience but with a well-seated obsession with the map not being the territory?

Comment author: RichardKennaway 13 August 2012 12:13:48PM 5 points [-]

Jill Bolte has provided a case study. She is a neurologist who had a stroke. Her experience is recounted in her TED talk and her book.

Comment author: MaoShan 17 August 2012 03:51:18AM 8 points [-]

I have read the book (I recently received it from an elderly friend who hoarded books--I picked through about $20,000 worth of books and chose several hundred dollars worth), and it started off interesting, to hear of her personal experience of the stroke and its accompanying mind-states. She seems to have fought her way through various delusions, but not with any more success than other examples cited here. Yes, she is/was a neuroscientist. She also proudly proclaims that she tells her bowels "Good job! I am so thankful that you do exactly what you are meant to do!" every time she takes a dump, and concluded the book with some painfully New Age-y exhortations which gave me the same urge to roll around frothing at the mouth that I often experienced with clearly delusional Christian preachers in church.

Comment author: Risto_Saarelma 13 August 2012 04:22:30PM 1 point [-]

The Amazon page for the book doesn't describe her getting any of the sort of very specific delusions described in the OP though, just general debilitation and paradoxical feelings of euphoria.

Comment author: RichardKennaway 13 August 2012 05:08:34PM 0 points [-]

It's the closest we're likely to get, though, given the rarity of both neurologists and anosognosias.

Comment author: Risto_Saarelma 13 August 2012 06:35:37PM 1 point [-]

Well, neurologists are rare, but I think we do know how to create targeted brain lesions that can cause pretty specific symptoms.

Comment author: faul_sname 13 August 2012 08:09:10PM 6 points [-]

Any volunteers?

Comment author: [deleted] 14 August 2012 05:23:22PM *  1 point [-]

I might. Anybody got $20,000,000?

Comment author: faul_sname 14 August 2012 11:45:34PM 6 points [-]

Well, if we're going there I'll do it for $10M.