Yvain comments on Bayes for Schizophrenics: Reasoning in Delusional Disorders - Less Wrong

88 Post author: Yvain 13 August 2012 07:22PM

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Comment author: Yvain 14 August 2012 01:41:34AM 0 points [-]

Therapists can very very carefully try to talk patients out of their delusions, but I've always heard of it as a complicated long-term process and I've never before heard of Bayes being used directly.

Comment author: metaphysicist 19 August 2012 10:40:54PM *  1 point [-]

You seem to be conflating the original schizophrenic state with the residual after the patients get antipsychotic medication: the latter may be readily amenable to reason; the former, the therapist would breach rapport with the patient, by challenging full delusions.

Medication is part of the standard treatment for schizophrenia--usually, the major part. Drawing conclusions about delusions from the residuals following treatment seems to shield you from what would be obvious had you observed unmedicated patients. Delusions aren't failures of Bayesian rationality: they involve, typically, accepting a few self-evident priors, and these are driven by intense affect.