Yvain comments on Bayes for Schizophrenics: Reasoning in Delusional Disorders - Less Wrong

88 Post author: Yvain 13 August 2012 07:22PM

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Comment author: Yvain 15 August 2012 02:39:59AM 3 points [-]

Availability heuristic seems related, but still doesn't explain why delusions are so much more fixed than ordinary conclusions.

I think dreams are also a good parallel for psychosis, but it's hard to tell how good without having been psychotic.

Comment author: Cosmos 16 August 2012 12:53:19AM 2 points [-]

To continue with the bias theme, how about confirmation bias? They settled on the most available theory that fits all the facts, and then it becomes part of their identity, they begin to rally the soldiers. Is their delusion that they are Jesus really that much less sticky than someone's political party?

Comment author: prase 16 August 2012 07:48:04PM 1 point [-]

Seems unlikely. First, confirmation bias has its limits and normally is never capable beating direct observational evidence. Second, people basing their identity on their being Jesus sounds like a plausible idea, but identity based on the fact that my arm isn't paralysed not that much. Third, it takes some time to associate own identity and status feeling with an idea - one doesn't become political partisan overnight - while the anosognosic delusions emerge immediately after the brain is damaged (well, I suppose this is so, but I can easily be mistaken here).

Comment author: TheOtherDave 16 August 2012 08:02:25PM 6 points [-]

identity based on the fact that my arm isn't paralysed not that much

I dunno. During the period after my stroke where I was suffering from partial right-side paralysis, a lot of the emotional suffering I experienced could reasonably be described as caused by having my identity as a person whose arm wasn't paralyzed challenged. I would probably say "self-image" instead of "identity", granted, but I'm not sure the difference is crisp.

Comment author: prase 16 August 2012 08:21:43PM 2 points [-]

Interesting. Did thinking about the paralysis feel similar to (learning a good argument against your favourite political ideology / seeing your favourite sports team lose / listening to an offensive but true remark made by your enemy / any situation in which you fell victim to confirmation bias)?

Comment author: TheOtherDave 17 August 2012 12:23:37AM 0 points [-]

It did not feel especially similar to any of the examples you list.
The general case is harder to think about... I'm not sure.