MaoShan comments on Bayes for Schizophrenics: Reasoning in Delusional Disorders - Less Wrong

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Comment author: MaoShan 21 August 2012 03:23:54AM 2 points [-]

Now we know what they were smoking!

Comment author: Multiheaded 21 August 2012 08:46:46AM *  3 points [-]

Yeah, not exactly - Salvia divinorum is native to Mexico - but I've read scholars implying that the Middle Eastern mystics often used psychoactive mushroooms in addition to generic techniques like prayer and fasting.

Comment author: chaosmage 18 September 2012 09:21:46PM 2 points [-]

Isn't it much more likely they were brain damaged in a more permanent way? Religious people who use psychoactives tend to openly praise their drugs much like they praise their gods (think soma, peyote, ayahuasca) - middle eastern mystics didn't do that. And with malnutrition, rampant child abuse and almost no health care, there's bound to have been enough brain damage around.

Comment author: MaoShan 22 August 2012 01:26:47AM 1 point [-]

That is also implied in The Transmigration of Timothy Archer. Or, maybe some of the Nephites returned to Jerusalem with a stash...

And of course, as Risto_Saarelma mentions in a comment further down, it may be possible to attain similar states through mental exercises without benefit of pharmaceutical remedies.