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Comment author: bcoburn 20 August 2012 05:53:05AM 5 points [-]

Because it signals that you're the sort of person who feels a need to get certifications, or more precisely that you thought you actually needed the certification to get a job. (And because the actual certifications aren't taken to be particularly hard, such that completing one is strong evidence of actual skill)

Comment author: [deleted] 20 August 2012 08:50:09AM 2 points [-]

And because the actual certifications aren't taken to be particularly hard, such that completing one is strong evidence of actual skill

OK, I get it now. I don't list my ECDL (which I took in high school) in my CV because i think it's so basic that potential employers (who have any kind of clue) would think "huh? so what?", but I assumed that Java/Microsoft/etc. certifications were nontrivial to get.

Comment author: DaFranker 21 August 2012 05:30:02PM *  4 points [-]

There's that, and there's also (from personal experience) an element of superhero bias (or bias overcompensation? I forget which way this one goes), where basically someone who does not have a certification but can code something optimally is de-facto superior to someone who does have a certification and codes the same thing just as optimally.

Additionally, there may be some reciprocate signaling involved; if I look for certified programmers, people will see mere certification as sufficient to get the job, which is not what I want - I want people who have the actual ability. Thus, I should hire people with ability but no certification, which signals that the certification is "useless" or "not what we're looking for" relative to other criteria.

This seems to even out to a reflective equilibrium where official certification is a net negative.