army1987 comments on Why Don't People Help Others More? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Raemon 16 August 2012 06:47:54PM *  1 point [-]

Random question (not expecting expert quality answers here, but curious)

If you have only minimal first aid training and no particular combat training, you are in a mostly deserted area, and you hear a gunshot somewhere nearby but out of sight, what do you think the rational altruistic response?

Edit: In this scenario, you either don't have a phone, there are no police in the area, or otherwise "easy way out" are not available. You can choose to whether and how to help by yourself, and that's it.

Comment author: [deleted] 16 August 2012 10:17:00PM *  0 points [-]

In this scenario I just don't think “rational” and “altruistic” are compatible (not even using an approximation to an acausal decision theory and assuming that so do other people, which makes altruism rational in the prisoners' dilemma). I'd just run the fuck away.

Anyway, this isn't analogous at all to the scenario in the study. There's no way you'll harm anyone (including yourself) by asking the researcher if she's OK and (say) calling an ambulance or something if she isn't.

Comment author: Raemon 16 August 2012 10:22:12PM *  0 points [-]

I think there is a very good case that a hypothetical rational agent motivated entirely by helping others would run away - that doesn't mean it isn't altruistic, just that there is realistically nothing to do to help others except leave to survive and find other others to help.