Kaj_Sotala comments on Open Thread, August 16-31, 2012 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 17 August 2012 09:02:36AM 4 points [-]

Every now and then, I want to use the expression "the map is not the territory" when writing something aimed at a non-LW audience. Naturally, in addition to briefly explaining what I mean by that in the text itself, I'd prefer to make the sentence a link to an illustrative LW post. However, I'm not sure of what would be a good page to link - the wiki has three (1 2 3) pages about the subject, but I'm not sure if any one of them is very good for this purpose. Suggestions?

Comment author: shminux 17 August 2012 04:49:38PM 4 points [-]

To reduce the inferential distance, remove the metaphor or replace it with one appropriate for your audience. "Belief is not reality", "wishing does not make it so" are some examples. Once people are comfortable with the idea, you can introduce the map/territory metaphor and link first to the Wikipedia entry. Wikipedia generally has more credibility than any niche site like LW. The "simple truth" parable on yudkowsky.net is quite engaging, but rather wordy and vague, and so should not be a primary reading, but rather a supplementary one.

Comment author: siodine 17 August 2012 05:01:25PM 1 point [-]

I like your examples, perhaps someone could do something like this for LW jargon.

Comment author: fubarobfusco 18 August 2012 08:24:22AM 0 points [-]

People mean different things by "the map is not the territory". For instance, it's sometimes used to say "no description is perfectly accurate" whereas other times it's more like "be careful not to confuse levels of reference." And sometimes it's more like a critique of magical thinking: "changing the map doesn't change the territory."

There's a Wikipedia article about it, too ... which also isn't especially great ...