Multiheaded comments on Open Thread, August 16-31, 2012 - Less Wrong
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I've been reading Robert Lindsay's blog - he's a total badass of a contrarian, stark raving mad in a good way, and a self-identified Stalinist, mentioned favorably by TGGP). He is a feminist-hating feminist, a liberal humanist who supports far-left totalitarian repression, and an anti-racist/anti-fascist White Supremacist - among other things. Literally a mad genius.
Anyway, what I want to mention is that, from the remarks of a guest poster there, I extrapolated what looks like a succint, plausible and non-mind-killed explanation of why, paradoxically, African-American communities in the U.S. have been in such a tragic state since segregation began to fade away in the 60s:
Duuuude. I think that hits the nail on the head. Evaporative cooling! When the segregation and anti-black sentiment are weakened but still in effect, of course it'd be the brightest, best socialized and most driven blacks who would break through the weakening celling, but the majority of blacks would remain an isolated community, suffering constant brain drain and hardly any "brain input" (from non-black assistance to the community, etc).
Of course, the traditional Black matriarchal family morphing into an unstable single-mom variant is another, far better known, cause of the clusterfuck - but it's startling how evaporative cooling demonstrates a direct causal link between what I'd call "desegregation for the top 10%" and the loss of those 10%'s contribution.
(P.S.: I do not endorse anything those guys say about "spoilt" American women and the "aggression" of mainstream feminism, etc - that has a grain of truth to it, but, as always, geeky American contrarian young men on the internet take that grain of truth and bury it under narrow-minded parochial whining. Looking from a Second World country, if anything screams "spoiled" to me, it's ye olde MRA rant. But I digress.)
(P.P.S.: oh damn, his attitude to masculinity and male sexuality is also schizophrenic, but in a really bad, no-good, awful way. I'm torn between laughter and disgust. Is he trying to imitate Orwell? Is that just full-on trolling? ...Sigh, I guess that's the admission price he's charging.)
Why doesn't this apply to every minority? For example, when anti-Semitism broke down, why didn't it leave behind little Jewish ghettos of swirling social dysfunction and failure as the best Jews escaped into goyish society? Why not any Asian group? etc.
Good try anyway.
If this is model is correct then we should expect it to also work when dealing with class. If so it might explain the rise of the native British underclass, as the old culturally enforced class barriers where lessened by meritocracy in the early 20th century, evaporative cooling ensured the remaining lower class suffered more and more social pathologies.
If Charles Murray's Coming Apart case that such a cultural divergence between classes is taking place in America is correct, we should be able to make a few predictions about the near term social future of that country. At a glance these predictions seem plausible as they match most current recorded trends.
This seems related to matters discussed in my public draft on Meritocracy and the comment section there: