Will_Sawin comments on An angle of attack on Open Problem #1 - Less Wrong

30 Post author: Benja 18 August 2012 12:08PM

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Comment author: Will_Sawin 19 August 2012 02:28:32AM 1 point [-]

This seems related to New Foundations set theory: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Foundations

Comment author: Benja 19 August 2012 09:11:22AM *  2 points [-]

Oh, actually, I would say that NF is not an instance of the "parametric polymorphism trick", but yet something else and much stranger that we don't understand nearly as well. NF's motivation is very much related, but---this is very fuzzy, but models of NFU seem to have to use much deeper logical trickery than the examples I was talking about, and it seems from my amateurish perspective that the reason is that NF "crosses levels" in stronger ways than the basic parametric polymorphism trick. Also, I've tried in the past to apply the trick to find simpler models of NFU and failed completely, though that's very weak evidence.