Rubix comments on How to deal with someone in a LessWrong meeting being creepy - Less Wrong

16 Post author: Douglas_Reay 09 September 2012 04:41AM

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Comment author: hg00 08 September 2012 12:22:50AM *  6 points [-]

I suspect you and Matt are talking past each other a bit.

Let's say we've got a guy who went to engineering school, works as an engineer, and plays Magic the Gathering in his spare time. As a result most of the people he has interacted with over the past decade are men, and evolution has programmed him to feel desperate and act creepy. Is there any ethical way for him to overcome his creepiness problem? Matt's arguing that maybe there isn't, because even if he finds women to hang out with, he'll end up creeping them out some at first by accident. So the ethical thing to do is to avoid women at all costs.

What's your take on this argument? My take is that someone needs to give Matt a big hug.

Comment author: Rubix 08 September 2012 12:39:20AM *  4 points [-]

It might be optimal for this guy to befriend men, or women he knows to be married or gay, who know how to socialize with people and are willing to help him out with that. There's a bootstrapping issue, but it's the best outcome if it can be attained.

[ETA: I failed a pronoun.]

Comment author: DanArmak 08 September 2012 07:42:31PM 3 points [-]

Married women frequently (warning, availability) report men making unwanted sexual advances. That they're married makes them even more creepy.