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Comment author: RomanDavis 08 September 2012 02:24:53AM *  10 points [-]

I, for one, have read these. They come up any time feminism rubs up against male geekdom, like blisters. Hopefully they do some help, but change is hard, and that's just how social skills are: they're skills, and acquiring them is and requires serious change on your part as a person.

This is obfuscated by other things, like hey, sometimes it is the other person's problem. Not all the time. Maybe even only rarely. But sometimes. And the temptation to make that excuse for yourself is very strong, even if you do know better.

The defensiveness isn't a good thing, but it's certainly understandable, and if you're part of the contrarian cluster, there's going to be some instinctive, automatic pushback. I know there is in me. Plus the criticism is leveled at (one of) my (our) tribe. What did you think was going to happen?

Comment author: orthonormal 08 September 2012 04:41:25AM *  4 points [-]

Well put. I lean towards the "requiring more of male geeks" side, but that's a really good analysis.

Plus the criticism is leveled at (one of) my (our) tribe. What did you think was going to happen?

Exactly. (Interestingly, the clash that led me to write that post had the shoe on the other foot, so to speak.)