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Comment author: [deleted] 08 September 2012 09:47:01AM *  15 points [-]

"sex is a need."

Taboo “need”. Yes, it's not necessary for survival; but homeless people can survive too, and still not many people say stuff like “shelter is not a need” or “stop acting like you're entitled to shelter”. (But I still agree no-one is expected to give you a sleeping place solely because you think you are a decent person.)

I mean, Maslow put it in the bottom layer of his pyramid... (Though the fact that he separately lists “sexual intimacy” higher up means that by “sex” in the bottom layer he likely meant the kind of sex that even prostitutes can give.)

Comment author: MixedNuts 08 September 2012 11:47:59AM 2 points [-]

Off-topic: your model of prostitution is wrong. Social skills, putting people at ease, listening, and acting are big parts of the job. Look up "girlfriend experience".

Comment author: [deleted] 08 September 2012 12:36:16PM 3 points [-]

Well, I was thinking more about street prostitutes than escorts, but what in my comment suggests anything about “my model of prostitution”, anyway?

Comment author: MixedNuts 08 September 2012 12:39:14PM 2 points [-]

"Sexual intimacy" is a thing prostitutes (including low-end ones) provide, which is why they're more expensive than fleshlights.

Comment author: [deleted] 08 September 2012 12:45:28PM *  2 points [-]

Given that Maslow listed it separately from “sex”, I guess he had in mind a narrower sense for “sexual intimacy” than you might have. (Unless he had in mind an extremely broad sense for “sex”, which would include e.g. self-masturbation.)

Comment author: DanArmak 08 September 2012 08:13:06PM 1 point [-]

Maybe he was just moralizing and wanted to label short or paid-for sexual intimacy as "mere sex".

Comment author: [deleted] 08 September 2012 08:59:58PM 4 points [-]

By looking at the pyramid, I think he meant for "sexual intimacy" to be to "sex" as friendship is to conversation, i.e. by the former he meant what people today would call "being in a relationship" or "romance". But I'm not fully sure.

Comment author: DanArmak 08 September 2012 09:09:55PM 1 point [-]

You mean the function of guaranteeing availability? Having friends provides good conversation. Being in a relationship provides good sex.

And being free from worry about having to provide conversation or sex for tomorrow satisfies a psychological need for security. That makes sense.