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Comment author: [deleted] 08 September 2012 02:58:27PM *  2 points [-]

By “attractiveness” I meant the set of all things about me that determine how likely you are to be attracted to me, not just handsomeness. It seems like you might be using “status” the same way I'm using “attractiveness”, whereas I'm using it only for “social” (FLOABW) features. IOW, as I'm using the words, I can have higher or lower status in a given social group but higher or lower attractiveness for a given person. Given that not all women in the same group will be attracted to exactly the same features in men, and given that one can be higher- or lower-status even in an all-straight-male group, the two are not synonymous.

Comment author: Sarokrae 08 September 2012 03:41:45PM *  2 points [-]

I think you're misunderstanding my point. I agree that status has a wider social meaning, but I was specifically referring to status in the context of one man approaching one woman, and saying that in that case it is usually at least monotonic with attraction. A well-respected academic has status within his field, but is still low-status in male-female interaction terms if he is sufficiently uncharismatic.

Edit: oops. My earlier comments didn't make this at all clear.

Comment author: [deleted] 08 September 2012 08:45:47PM *  1 point [-]

I don't think Athrelon in the comment that started this thread meant "status" in the latter sense.

Comment author: Sarokrae 09 September 2012 12:16:03AM 1 point [-]

Fair enough. Guess I was arguing a completely different point then.

Now, where did that thread go which was about the better way to fix creepiness being how to teach people to get/signal more status, rather than what not to do... Pretty sure there they're using this definition.

(Gah, words are hard.)