NancyLebovitz comments on How to deal with someone in a LessWrong meeting being creepy - Less Wrong

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Comment author: ChristianKl 09 September 2012 09:25:51PM 3 points [-]

Whether a man is allowed to touch a woman or isn't can depend on the man. If the man feels good and is relaxed he is allowed more touching. If he's high status he's also allowed to initiate more physical contact.

If a guy wants to be seen as non creepy, trying to figure out the rules of etiquette that are valid for a high status member in his group might not be enough. Books are problematic. If you read a book you might see that high status members of your group don't follow the etiquette of the book.

There are basically two ways: (1) Learn to feel when you make other people uncomfortable. (2) Follow a set of rules that make your interactions safe.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 09 September 2012 09:50:34PM 7 points [-]

There are basically two ways: (1) Learn to feel when you make other people uncomfortable. (2) Follow a set of rules that make your interactions safe.

Another piece would be learning how to recognize when people are attracted to you-- a fair number of people (perhaps especially geeks) aren't reliably good at that.

Comment author: ChristianKl 09 September 2012 10:38:15PM 7 points [-]

It's an important skill but it's not enough. Even a girl that's attracted to you can get uncomfortable if you touch her too much.

A shy girl might get uncomfortable with physical touch from a guy she's attracted to. Another girl who isn't attracted to the same guy might find the same amount of physical touch acceptable.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 09 September 2012 10:40:50PM 4 points [-]

I agree with your comment.

It's just that noticing when someone is attracted to you frequently gets left out of advice.

Comment author: bbleeker 10 September 2012 11:09:17AM 2 points [-]

I'm selfishly glad my husband was late in learning that. If he'd learned sooner, he'd have been married to someone else long before we met. :-)

Comment author: [deleted] 09 September 2012 11:40:09PM 6 points [-]

Yes. I creeped out girls who had cold-approached me first a few times in the past.

Comment author: wedrifid 10 September 2012 11:14:54AM 2 points [-]

Yes. I creeped out girls who had cold-approached me first a few times in the past.

Wow, that's impressive. :)