Eliezer_Yudkowsky comments on Conventions and Confusing Continuity Conundrums - Less Wrong

2 Post author: Psy-Kosh 01 May 2009 01:41AM

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 01 May 2009 06:29:17AM 3 points [-]

If a dust speck in the eye is worse than nothing, and being tortured for 50 years is worse than a dust speck, there must be some probability of being tortured for 50 years which is so small that you are indifferent between that and a certainty of getting a dust speck in the eye? I quite agree!

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Comment author: MendelSchmiedekamp 01 May 2009 02:29:22PM 2 points [-]

Your link deals neither with equality of preferences or with probability. Could you please explain its relevance?

Also, why does this example imply that continuity is generally valid?

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 01 May 2009 05:32:11PM 0 points [-]

It's about continuity and quantitative commensurability of preferences. Aggregating lots of small events is not quite the same balancing method as multiplying a large event by a tiny probability, and I think some people did bite the second bullet but not the first (?!) - but it's the same basic concept of continuity and quantitative commensurability that lets you compare utility intervals on a common scale and "shut up and multiply".

Comment author: MendelSchmiedekamp 01 May 2009 06:04:57PM *  1 point [-]

The commonality between aggregation and probability for multiplying that is occurring in this case is reasonable, but that lies on the same level as the argument that Psy-Kosh makes in adorable maybes.

The point of this post is that his argument doesn't just give you continuity. There is some missing step.

Elsewhere in these comments I'm claiming what is missing is actually an additional premise.

Comment author: Psychohistorian 01 May 2009 12:36:53PM 2 points [-]

The actual effort it requires to consider which option to take is itself probably less pleasant than just taking the dust speck. Of course, this decision cost doesn't apply to models, but it's worth considering if you're thinking of actually being faced with the decision yourself.