Randaly comments on What's Wrong with Evidential Decision Theory? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Randaly 23 August 2012 08:04:58AM 0 points [-]

Ah, I see.

Unfortunately, "the decision to not smoke, for the purpose of avoiding cancer" and "the decision not to smoke, for any other reason" are not distinct actions. The actions available are simply "smoke" or "not smoke". EDT doesn't take prior information, like motives or genes, into account.

Comment author: V_V 23 August 2012 11:46:56PM *  1 point [-]

You can observe your preferences and hence take them into account.

Suppose that most people without the lesion find smoking disgusting, while most people with the lesion find it pleasurable. The lesion doesn't affect your probability of smoking other than by affecting that taste.

The EDT says that should smoke if you find it pleasurable and you shouldn't if you find it disgusting.

Comment author: prase 23 August 2012 05:57:01PM 1 point [-]

EDT doesn't take prior information, like motives or genes, into account.

Is that explicitly forbidden by some EDT axiom? It seems quite natural for an EDT agent to know its own motives for its decision.

Comment author: aaronde 23 August 2012 05:28:24PM *  0 points [-]

Figuring out what your options are is a hard problem for any decision theory, because it goes to the heart of what we mean by "could". In toy problems like this, agents just have their options spoon-fed to them. I was trying to show that EDT makes the sensible decision, if it has the right options spoon-fed to it. This opens up at least the possibility that a general EDT agent (that figures out what its options are for itself) would work, because there's no reason, in principle, why it can't consider whether the statement "I decided to not smoke, for the purpose of avoiding cancer" would be good news or bad news.

Recognizing this as an option in the first place is a much more complicated issue. But recognizing "smoke" as an option isn't trivial either. After all, you can't smoke if there are no cigarettes available. So it seems to me that, if you're a smoker who just found out about the statistics on smoking and cancer, then the relevant choice you have to make is whether to "decide to quit smoking based on this information about smoking and cancer."

(edited for clarity)