RobertLumley comments on The noncentral fallacy - the worst argument in the world? - Less Wrong

157 Post author: Yvain 27 August 2012 03:36AM

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Comment author: [deleted] 27 August 2012 04:37:42PM 32 points [-]

Yvain, here is a challenge. Many of your examples are weak versions of strong right-wing arguments that you do not accept. (by your remark about Schelling fences, it seems you're aware of this). I challenge you to replace each of these examples with a weak version of a strong left-wing argument that you do accept. Since policy debates should not appear one-sided, there should be no shortage of weak arguments "on your side." And it would be an interesting kind of ideological Turing test.

Perhaps I'm wrong about "what side you're on" and you already accept the strong right-wing arguments. In which case you got me, well done!

Comment author: RobertLumley 27 August 2012 07:47:42PM 0 points [-]

This. The lack of examples from the left makes me uncomfortable sharing this article with people that will likely see it as an attack on their ideology. If they have some things to cheer for too, they are far more likely to accept it as a good post.

Comment author: Yvain 27 August 2012 09:39:11PM 3 points [-]

See above. Come up with a good leftist example beyond the three already there and I'll add it.

Comment author: [deleted] 27 August 2012 07:56:01PM *  2 points [-]

Which is unfortunate since this seems to be one of the few recent articles with relatively short inferential distances.