fubarobfusco comments on The noncentral fallacy - the worst argument in the world? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: MileyCyrus 27 August 2012 09:57:36AM *  15 points [-]

It's bad when people use the dictionary to make political arguments, but it's worse when they write their own dictionary. For example:

  • Normal people define "selfishness" as "taking care of oneself, even if that means hurting other people." Objectivists define "selfishness" as "taking care of oneself, but never hurting other people." Hence, selfishness can never morally objectionable.

  • Normal people define "sexism" as "unfair treatment of a person based on their sex." Feminists define "sexism" as "unfair treatment of a person based on their sex, but it only counts if their sex has been historically disadvantaged." Hence, men can never be victims of sexism.

  • Normal people define "freedom" as "the ability to do a lot of stuff." Catholics define freedom as "the ability to do as God wishes." Hence, laws enforcing Catholic norms are pro-freedom.

Comment author: fubarobfusco 27 August 2012 09:39:40PM *  10 points [-]

Normal people define "true" as "good enough; not worth looking at too closely". Nerds define "true" as "irrefutable even by the highest-level nerd you are likely to encounter in this context." Hence more or less all of Western philosophy, theology, science, etc.; and hence normal people's acceptance that contradictory things can be "true" at the same time.

(Yes, I'm problematizing your contrast between various groups you dislike and "normal people".)

Comment author: folkTheory 28 August 2012 07:50:28AM *  9 points [-]

and hence normal people's acceptance that nerd-contradictory things can be normal-"true" at the same time.

Namespaced that for you.

Comment author: SilasBarta 08 September 2012 09:43:52PM 2 points [-]

People need to do that more often!

Comment author: DaFranker 29 August 2012 03:01:40AM 0 points [-]

Thank you. That saved me a second (and perhaps third) read; the sentence had me confused.