kilobug comments on The noncentral fallacy - the worst argument in the world? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: kilobug 29 August 2012 02:42:34PM 2 points [-]

There seems to be a significant difference between "prohibition" and "war on drugs" to me, that may justify it being WAitW : prohibition is attacking a behavior that most people actually do. Nearly everyone drinks alcohol, at least on special occasions. While drugs (even the "softer" of the prohibited one, cannabis) are only used by a small fraction (in the USA, where it's pretty high, according to Wikipedia, it's 13% who used cannabis at least once in 2009). I'm not in favor of "war on drugs" (in my opinion, it has a lot of negative consequences and doesn't work well at all at reducing drug usage), but there is a significant difference between forbidding something "everyone" does and something 10% of the population does, and "prohibition" does bring in the "forbidding something everyone does" connotation.

I would find it more accurate to call the ban on filesharing "prohibition" than to call war on drugs "prohibition" (but both are a form of WAitW).

Comment author: Kindly 29 August 2012 05:09:43PM 1 point [-]

You think that more people have tried filesharing than drugs?

Comment author: kilobug 29 August 2012 06:19:52PM 2 points [-]

Tried, I would say it depends of the age group. But "tried once in your life" is not the most important for prohibition issues, it's people using it regularly the real issue.

So, do it regularly (at least once a year) ? It's hard to find stats on filesharing usage, but the data I remember is about 1/3 of people with internet access using p2p, which is about 2/3 of the population, so 2/9 = 22%, nearly twice the 13% who used cannabis "once per year". Cannabis is not the only durg, but p2p isn't the only form of filesharing, so it more or less compensates.

Comment author: DaFranker 29 August 2012 06:34:33PM 0 points [-]

Is that your real question? It feels like you're objecting to something else or asking an entirely different question, like, say, "Does filesharing really deserve the 'prohibition' connotations more than drugs?".

Comment author: Kindly 29 August 2012 07:31:48PM 2 points [-]

That's my real question. I'm not really objecting to anything, I just found the implied estimate surprising.

Comment author: DaFranker 29 August 2012 07:36:54PM 2 points [-]

Thanks for clarifying.