Eugine_Nier comments on The noncentral fallacy - the worst argument in the world? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Eugine_Nier 30 August 2012 08:01:04AM 2 points [-]

The key question is not whether leftist politicians have become elites (they do regularly) but whether their agenda supports elites and whether they get support from the elites, which happens very rarely.

I wasn't just referring to politicians, but to the liberal intelligentsia.

but the left politicians are nevertheless still more connected with lower classes than the right politicians.

I don't know what the situation is in the Czech Republic, but in the US while this was probably somewhat true a generation ago, it's highly dubious today. (Although of course liberals like to think it's still true.)

Comment author: thomblake 30 August 2012 02:51:59PM *  3 points [-]

I don't know what the situation is in the Czech Republic, but in the US while this was probably somewhat true a generation ago, it's highly dubious today.

I'm reminded of a quote from a hippy band during the Vietnam War. Paraphrased:

We thought we were representing the working class. Then we realized the working class were the ones beating us with nightsticks.

Comment author: Vaniver 30 August 2012 03:08:00PM 2 points [-]

I don't know what the situation is in the Czech Republic, but in the US while this was probably somewhat true a generation ago, it's highly dubious today. (Although of course liberals like to think it's still true.)

Especially when you consider things like gay marriage or free immigration, causes universally approved of (in public, at least) by the liberal intelligentsia, but very unpopular among several core Democratic groups.

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