CCC comments on The noncentral fallacy - the worst argument in the world? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 13 September 2012 04:51:00AM 0 points [-]

"No" and "It wouldn't", indeed. But heritable penalties once something does go to -3 would prevent users with zero or lower karma from replying further, thus preventing the current thread from happening again.

Comment author: CCC 13 September 2012 07:23:02AM 2 points [-]

An alternative possibility, that may have the same or a similar effect, is to auto-close the children of heavily downvoted posts when they appear on the "Recent Comments" window. Adding an extra step to reply to such a post will tend to reduce the number of replies that is gets, and will clearly signal to the reader that the post is, in fact, the child of a heavily downvoted post.

I have no idea if this possibility will be better or worse than the heritable penalties (nor, for that matter, which option would be easier to implement).

Comment author: Bugmaster 13 September 2012 08:09:16PM *  2 points [-]

Could we change the "Recent Comments" box to say "Recent Threads", instead, with a count of updated comments, net karma, and most recent poster for each thread as usual ? For example, something like this:

EliezerYudkowsky on Meta-note: Right now... by EliezerYudkowsky on The Worst Argument In The World | 7k, 2 new
Mugbuster on You all smell... by Obvious_Troll on The Worst Argument In The World | -15k, 18 new

This tells me that Eliezer commented on a thread that he started, and the thread is generally positively rated, though low-volume, so I might click it. On the other hand, Mugbuster commented on a high-volume thread that has cumulative -15 karma, which means that it's probably a trolling thread, and I should stay out of it.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 13 September 2012 01:57:48PM 3 points [-]

That one's in progress, I think.

Also, to reply to a comment elsewhere in thread, obviously penalties are not going to be charged retrospectively if an ancestor later goes to -3. Nobody has proposed this. Navigating the LW rules is not intended to require precognition.

Comment author: spuckblase 13 September 2012 02:35:47PM 3 points [-]

Navigating the LW rules is not intended to require precognition.

Well, it was required when (negative) karma for Main articles increased tenfold.

Comment author: thomblake 13 September 2012 07:58:54PM 1 point [-]

Yes, or when downvotes were limited without warning.