First, at least some of the other people in these conversation say that unlike myself, they really want to participate in them and it's not a temptation they would want to avoid.

Second, I would prefer those conversations to exist (since others want them) if they could exist in a way that would not tempt me to join in, as it does now. Of which I said that I don't know if that goal could be achieved in practice (except by moving these conversations to a completely separate site, obviously).

As long as that goal is not achieved at least partially, I recognize there's a problem (for myself) with having these conversations here on LW. And I tentatively welcome changes to the LW rules that try to fix this, even though I am uncertain if the specific changes being implemented will not have other, worse, negative effects as well.

Yes there are conflicting goals here, but I am explicitly balancing them.