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Comment author: RichardKennaway 19 September 2012 12:59:26PM -2 points [-]

since you're lucky enough to be part of a physical community of "similar" people (in which, of course, you happen to have high status), your brain thinks they are the ones who "really matter" -- as opposed to abstract characters on the internet who weren't part of the ancestral environment (and who never fail to critique you whenever they can).

Was Eliezer "lucky" to have cofounded the Singularity Institute and Overcoming Bias? "Lucky" to have written the Sequences? "Lucky" to have founded LessWrong? "Lucky" to have found kindred minds, both online and in meatspace? Does he just "happen" to be among them?

Or has he, rather, searched them out and created communities for them to come together?

That doesn't change the fact that this is is an online community, and as such, is for us abstract characters, not your real-life dinner companions. You should be taking advice from the latter about running this site to about the same extent that Alicorn should be taking advice from this site about how to run her dinner parties.

The online community of LessWrong does not own LessWrong. EY owns LessWrong, or some combination of EY, the SI, and whatever small number of other people they choose to share the running of the place with. To a limited extent it is for us, but its governance is not at all by us, and it wouldn't be LessWrong if it was. The system of government here is enlightened absolutism.

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Comment author: RichardKennaway 20 September 2012 12:37:18PM *  3 points [-]

Yudkowsky's luck consisted of having a billionaire friend (Peter Thiele) who bankrolled SIAI

How did he acquire such a friend, and who convinced him to bankroll SIAI?

Comment author: gwern 19 September 2012 09:52:47PM 3 points [-]

SIAI over its history (you can look at the Form 990s if you want) has gotten maybe half or less its budget from Thiel. Where's the rest coming from? Lady Luck's charitable writeoffs?

Still, at least you seem to have dropped your claim that SIAI or LW is a homeschooling propaganda front...

Comment author: ArisKatsaris 20 September 2012 11:23:28AM 2 points [-]

It's my impression that "front group" as typically used refers to a hidden/covert connection. LessWrong on the other hand has the logos/links for CFAR, SI and the Future of Humanity Institute displayed prominently.

Comment author: [deleted] 20 September 2012 11:13:07AM 1 point [-]

<nitpick>Thiel</nitpick>

Comment author: shminux 19 September 2012 08:45:24PM *  -1 points [-]

What would have happened if he didn't? How many times, do you think, other potential sponsors decided to pass? Seems like this is one of those cases where a person makes his own luck.