shminux comments on Counterfactual resiliency test for non-causal models - Less Wrong

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Comment author: shminux 30 August 2012 06:14:48PM 2 points [-]

This pattern-matches in my mind to the Stability theory, only you try to use large changes instead of tiny ones, which might be too much of a jump.

It might be worth considering small changes in the initial conditions (is that what you call T?). In the Reformation example, would having 94 theses make a difference? What if Luther's proclamation was not translated to German? Etc.

Suppose you establish that a model is stable to small perturbations (how? seems to need math), you can then try to see where the tipping points are. If there is no such stability, the model is probably useless.

Comment author: Stuart_Armstrong 30 August 2012 06:32:13PM 0 points [-]

Hum... That is one suggested way of going. But it does seem to ignore the fact that these non-causal models are claimed to be correct, without needing to know anything much about the underlying processes.

Maybe "small" should be calibrated by the claims of the model?

Comment author: billswift 30 August 2012 08:32:44PM 0 points [-]

At least for the three examples you cited, I seem to remember them bring called approximations, not "correct".

Comment author: Stuart_Armstrong 30 August 2012 09:10:55PM *  3 points [-]

What's the difference between a singularity, and an approximate singularity? :-)

Comment author: faul_sname 30 August 2012 11:57:35PM 2 points [-]

In the former case, it progresses asymptotically, while in the latter, it progresses exponentially or super-exponentially but not asymptotically.