orthonormal comments on What's the Value of Information? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: orthonormal 30 August 2012 04:30:48AM 3 points [-]

The reason it works like that is that in this artificial setup, there's no difference in your action if your odds are 100:1 or 1.1:1. If you could (say) make hedge bets with other customers at the bar, then the first number on the page has positive utility for you again.

Comment author: johnlawrenceaspden 30 August 2012 11:21:45AM 0 points [-]

It doesn't seem enormously artificial to me. I could just do this, had I £1000 to spare, and there are plenty of people round here who'd be sophisticated enough to enjoy playing.

Imagine you're in a real bar, and a real (trustworthy) person comes in and says this. What will you pay for the first number? If that's a 2, what will you pay for the second? If that's a 12, what will you pay for the third?

Comment author: Vaniver 30 August 2012 07:52:58PM *  4 points [-]

orthonormal's making the more subtle point that decisions are binary, and so certainty is crudely partitioned into two regions. With hedging and other financial instruments, then relative degrees of certainty matter- if I'm 90% sure that it's 1d12 and you're 80% sure that it's 1d12, then we can bet against each other, each thinking that we're picking up free money. (Suppose you pay me $3 if it's 1d12, and I pay you $17 if it's 2d6. Both of us have an expected value of $1 from this bet.) The more accurate my estimate is, the better odds I can make.

With the decision problem, we both decide the same way, and will both win or lose together.

Comment author: orthonormal 30 August 2012 09:47:30PM 2 points [-]

What Vaniver said. I'm claiming that it's artificial as a decision theory problem, not in the sense of being unrealistic, but in the sense of having constrained options that don't allow you to make full use of information.