conchis comments on Open Thread: May 2009 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: conchis 12 May 2009 12:00:56PM 0 points [-]

I see the problem not as primarily one of determining causality but more as a cost-benefit analysis.

This makes sense to me, but it seems to run counter to the nature of MrHen's original claim that the issue is lack of responsibility. For example, if it's all about CBA, then you would presumably be more uneasy about MrHen's hostage example ($100 vs. 10 lives) than he seems to be. Presumably also you would become even more uneasy were it $10, or $1, whereas MrHen's argument seems to suggest that all of this is irrelevant because you're not responsible either way.

Am I understanding you correctly?

Comment author: mattnewport 12 May 2009 08:31:09PM 0 points [-]

In this example I wouldn't hold someone morally responsible for the murders if they failed to pay $100 ransom - that responsibility still lies firmly with the person taking the hostages. Depending on the circumstances I would probably consider it morally questionable to fail to pay such a low cost for such a high benefit to others though. That's a little different to the question of moral responsibility for the deaths however.

Note that I also don't consider an example like this morally equivalent to not donating $100 to a charity that is expected to save 10 lives as a utilitarian/consequentialist view of morality would tend to hold.

Comment author: MrHen 12 May 2009 01:43:13PM 0 points [-]

Well, you are certainly understanding me correctly.