Has anyone yet mentioned or reported that for the last couple days, the "karma for last 30 days" is showing zero for everyone? And that we no longer can see the top contributors for the last 30 days either?
Do we have an explanation or estimation for a bugfix on this?
I'm now getting notices when people reply to my articles in the comment section. These replies show up in my inbox. I'm not sure this is a new feature, but I know this didn't use to happen for me.
So cool!
Last 30 days karma is disabled for now because it was interacting weirdly with a new feature; TrikeApps is working on the fix.
Zero for me too, and others reported the same on the IRC channel. I think the site got an upgrade that zapped some state. More interesting than the local karma display breakage, there now seems to be a 5 karma point troll feeding fee whenever you want to reply to a comment that has been downvoted to -3 or below.
More interesting than the local karma display breakage, there now seems to be a 5 karma point troll feeding fee whenever you want to reply to a comment that has been downvoted to -3 or below.
This will lead to more complaining from those who are frustrated at being down voted without explanation
Also I wonder if you take the 5 karma hit if you reply to your own under -3 karma post.
This will lead to more complaining from those who are frustrated at being down voted without explanation
And from people who think they have attracted a stalker clique that downvotes everything they post.
That's a really good point. After this update, all one needs to stifle conversation with a trivial inconvenience is 3 + sockpuppets.
I just realized that there's another problem with this scheme: anyone using the "Anti-Kibitzer" will have absolutely no clue why they're losing karma.
Nope. It pops up a warning that asks you if you want to blow karma by replying if you try to reply to a downvoted post, even if you have the Kibitzer on.
Does the reply get marked down to -5 to start with, or are the 5 karma points invisibly subtracted from one's total karma?
This confuses me too, actually. Before this feature, one's karma score was solely the sum of the scores of one's posts and comments. Adding another invisible feature means that your total karma can't be reliably reconstructed by looking at those features, even if you throw in information about the ancestors of the comments (because if you reply to a downvoted comment, that doesn't prevent it from later being upvoted). It adds an additional and uniquely nontransparent value.
Seems fine now.
*adding keywords to suck in ctrl+f karma: fixed,working,back,patch,works,repaired,restored,okay
I also seem to have increasing karma despite recent downvotes. I may just have missed some older positive votes, though.
The FAQ says "karma is mainly useful for letting people know how great you are." The (now disabled?) 'Karma for the last 30 days' tally suggests karma also has some relation to time.
I propose adding a function of karma decay. Over n-amount of time time, x-amount of karma is lost. This is also useful for letting people know how great you are.
I propose adding a function of karma decay. Over n-amount of time time, x-amount of karma is lost.
Loss aversion would make this upsetting, perhaps more upsetting than gaining karma is pleasing.
In addition to what others said, people will be discouraged from explaining downvotes. (Or maybe encouraged to explain even minor downvotes.) Once a comment is at -3 without a (good) explanation in a reply to it, people will not want to pay a penalty to explain to a potentially well meaning poster what was wrong with their comment. Instead they will be incentivized to further downvote it without explanation.
Not all comments deserving -3 karma are trolls, some are merely stupid / insensitive / wrong / unoriginal.
This change will make people think: is this comment a troll? If it is, downvote it to -3 or beyond; if not, don't downvote below -2. If that's desirable behavior, and we come to agree about it, and -3 is the right level for it, then we will have many comments at -2 that previously would have been downvoted further, because people will not want to tell others "you're trolling" unless they really think so.
(And then people would probably want comments hidden at -2, not -3: the karma level of bad, though not quite trolling, comments.)
Not all comments receiving -3 karma are trolls either.