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Eliezer_Yudkowsky comments on [META] Karma for last 30 days? - Less Wrong

15 Post author: ArisKatsaris 30 August 2012 10:33AM

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 31 August 2012 05:19:55AM -3 points [-]

Meta-discussion is also a horrible slime-dripping cancer on a forum, so I'm okay with nobody ever seeing it again.

Comment author: JoshuaZ 31 August 2012 01:19:58PM *  13 points [-]

Meta-discussion is also a horrible slime-dripping cancer on a forum

Meta-discussion has to occur on fora if fora are going to function. It may be that non-functioning fora have more meta-discussion, but there are obvious correlation v. causation issues.

Comment author: paper-machine 31 August 2012 07:27:28PM 0 points [-]

Meta-discussion has to occur on fora if fora are going to function.

You have some evidence for this?

In this thread and the perfectly superfluous other thread you made for this topic, I have observed a tendency to state ex cathedra beliefs on the nature of communities and what mechanisms are necessary for their survival.

Comment author: JoshuaZ 01 September 2012 12:40:41AM *  5 points [-]

You have some evidence for this?

Only some personal experience and general intuition. I don't think anyone, even Eliezer, is going to argue that zero meta discussion is optimal. The question then is how much is optimal. It is possible that a weaker version of my statement like starting it with "it seems that" might have been helpful.

In this thread and the perfectly superfluous other thread you made for this topic, I have observed a tendency to state ex cathedra beliefs on the nature of communities and what mechanisms are necessary for their survival.

I agree that there's a fair bit of stated beliefs without much evidence all around, although I'm puzzled by your description of the other thread as superfluous.

Comment author: radical_negative_one 02 September 2012 05:58:07AM 1 point [-]

Do we have any reliable authorities on the sociology of internet forums yet?

Comment author: Konkvistador 31 August 2012 03:54:54PM *  4 points [-]

I agreed with this as a general principle strongly enough to pay a 5 karma penalty to say so. I don't think it should be as down voted as it is.

I can't recall having ever participated in a forum or blog and have the pay offs of meta-discussion be higher than discussing something else. More problematically it is way too engaging than it should be and is an attention sink.

Comment author: thomblake 05 September 2012 07:03:19PM 0 points [-]

If you really believe meta-discussions are inappropriate, delete the parent comment.