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Comment author: gwern 31 August 2012 06:10:16PM 9 points [-]

I see your anecdote, and I raise it and the evidence hierarchy with Ericsson's correlational research on "deliberate practice".

Comment author: MixedNuts 01 September 2012 08:27:19PM 3 points [-]

Did Ericsson study types of practice for beginners to good amateurs? The Cambridge Handbook of Expertise and Expert Performance (I believe this is your copy?) wouldn't cite that research. Ericsson's papers apparently all have to do with experts. There's one cross-performance-levels paper, about college students, which finds that studying in quiet environments and going to class help more than studying longer, which is consistent with deliberate practice models but also with many others.

Comment author: gwern 02 September 2012 01:27:53AM 2 points [-]

I'm not sure he personally studied them, or just discussed the previous work. eg. from his '93 paper discussing the violinists:

It is important to note that our study shows only that the amount and distribution of practice is related to the level of performance of adult musicians. In fact, many additional factors consistent with the skill-acquisition framework could attenuate the differences among our three groups. Sosniak (1985) found that international-level pianists had spent considerable efforts to seek out the very best musical teachers during their musical development. Furthermore, it is likely that an analysis of the detailed activities during practice alone would reveal qualitative differences between violinists at different advanced levels of performance (Gruson, 1988; Miklaszewski, 1989).