Alicorn comments on Rationality Quotes September 2012 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Alicorn 07 September 2012 08:07:02PM *  12 points [-]

He was lying about having had gene therapy. He was a superior candidate by virtue of same but it would have kept him out because Starfleet is anti-gene-therapy-ist. (At least I assume so - I remember the character had the therapy and had to hide it, but not whether it came out in that episode or something else did.)

Comment author: Vaniver 07 September 2012 08:16:05PM 13 points [-]

He was lying about having had gene therapy.

That is much more justifiable than the standard case of lying on applications.

He was a superior candidate by virtue of same but it would have kept him out because Starfleet is anti-gene-therapy-ist.

I can imagine Star Robin Hanson writing an angry blog post about what this implies about Starfleet's priorities.

Comment author: GLaDOS 07 September 2012 08:22:17PM *  12 points [-]

I can imagine Star Robin Hanson writing an angry blog post about what this implies about Starfleet's priorities.

Have you seen any Star Trek? Star Robin Hanson would have a lot of angry posts to write.

Comment author: Vaniver 07 September 2012 08:47:04PM 1 point [-]

Have you seen any Star Trek?

Some, as a child.

Comment author: Alicorn 07 September 2012 08:24:08PM *  6 points [-]

There was a (flimsy) historical reason - there had been wars about "augments" in the past; the anti-augments won (somehow), determined the war was about "people setting themselves above their fellow humans", and discouraged more people augmenting themselves/their children in this way by (ineffectively) making it a net negative.

Comment author: Nominull 08 September 2012 04:24:41PM 0 points [-]

Heck, anti-fascism beat fascism, it's not always the stronger-seeming ideology that comes out on top.

Comment author: DanArmak 08 September 2012 08:45:13PM *  -1 points [-]

Anti-fascism is perhaps more usefully described as pro-something else. In the event, communism.

Comment author: CronoDAS 10 September 2012 12:34:06AM *  1 point [-]

I read somewhere that, in Star Trek land, genetic engineering of intelligent beings is highly correlated with evil, either because it's being done for an evil purpose to begin with or because the engineered beings themselves end up as arrogant, narcissistic jerks with a strong tendency toward becoming evil. The latter implies that there's a technical problem with the genetic engineering of humans that hasn't been solved yet, which Bashir was lucky to have avoided.

Comment author: CCC 10 September 2012 06:35:38AM 4 points [-]

It might not be a technical problem. It might merely be that most augments are raised by people who keep telling them that they're genetically superior to everyone else and therefore create in them a sense of arrogance and entitlement. Which is only made worse by the fact that they actually are stronger, healthier and smarter than everyone else (but not by as big a margin as they tend to imagine).

Comment author: taelor 11 September 2012 05:49:54AM *  1 point [-]
Comment author: RobertLumley 07 September 2012 10:30:34PM 0 points [-]

This is correct. He lied about not being genetically engineered.