Eliezer_Yudkowsky comments on Rationality Quotes September 2012 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: MixedNuts 19 September 2012 05:18:46PM 11 points [-]

I think I disagree; care to make it precise enough to bet on? I'm expecting life still around, Earth the main population center, most humans not uploaded, some people dying of disease or old age or in wars, most people performing dispreferred activities in exchange for scarce resources at least a couple months in their lives, most children coming out of a biological parent and not allowed to take major decisions for themselves for at least a decade.

I'm offering $100 at even odds right now and will probably want to bet again in the next few years. I can give it to you (if you're going to transfer it to SIAI/CFAR tell me and I'll donate directly), and you pay me $200 if the world has not ended in 100 years as soon as we're both available (e.g. thawed). If you die you can keep the money; if I die then win give it to some sensible charity.

How's that sound? All of the above is up for negotiation.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 26 September 2012 11:01:32PM 6 points [-]

As wedifrid says, this is a no-brainer "accept" (including the purchasing-power-adjusted caveat). If you are inside the US and itemize deductions, please donate to SIAI, otherwise I'll accept via Paypal. Your implied annual interest rate assuming a 100% probability of winning is 0.7% (plus inflation adjustment). Please let me know whether you decide to go through with it; withdrawal is completely understandable - I have no particular desire for money at the cost of forcing someone else to go through with a bet they feel uncomfortable about. (Or rather, my desire for $100 is not this strong - I would probably find $100,000 much more tempting.)

Comment author: MixedNuts 27 September 2012 09:55:56AM 10 points [-]

PayPal-ed to sentience at pobox dot com.

Don't worry, my only debitor who pays higher interest rates than that is my bank. As long as that's not my main liquidity bottleneck I'm happy to follow medieval morality on lending.

If you publish transaction data to confirm the bet, please remove my legal name.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 27 September 2012 03:20:28PM 9 points [-]

Bet received. I feel vaguely guilty and am reminding myself hard that money in my Paypal account is hopefully a good thing from a consequentialist standpoint.

Comment author: gwern 27 September 2012 07:46:13PM 9 points [-]

Bet recorded: LW bet registry, PB.com.