CronoDAS comments on Dragon Ball's Hyperbolic Time Chamber - Less Wrong

35 Post author: gwern 02 September 2012 11:49PM

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Comment author: CronoDAS 07 September 2012 10:39:17AM 2 points [-]

Indeed. Put a hyperbolic time chamber inside another hyperbolic time chamber, and you get a speedup factor of 365 squared.

I think the characters in Primer may have done something like this, getting around a limitation of their time machine by putting a second time machine inside of the first. Then again, the movie isn't always clear as to what's happening, so it's hard to tell...

Comment author: gwern 07 September 2012 05:25:20PM *  3 points [-]

Yeah, it would be interesting, but it's not doable in either the original DBZ scenario, or in upload scenarios: you can't emulate an emulator and get a speedup like that - the buckpassing doesn't work, the computations still have to be done somewhere.

(Any optimization you could apply to emulating an emulation, like some sort of Futamura projection collapsing the emulated program and the emulated hardware, could be done at the original emulation level, so all it leaves you with is possible programming convenience and constant factors of inefficiency and indirection.)