NancyLebovitz comments on Politics Discussion Thread September 2012 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: NancyLebovitz 05 September 2012 03:23:31PM *  5 points [-]

History of Wizards of the Coast as told by the founder, Dave Adkinson. One point that caught my eye is that even though he's an excellent administrator (he shepherded his company through a half a dozen or so major changes), he was eventually pushed out of the business because eventually the only thing which made sense was to sell it to Hasbro. After a while, he lost so much control that they'd squeezed out the only thing he could think of to do with the business.

I'm not worried about him-- he's going to film school, and I expect he's going to do something worth seeing and make money at it.

However, I think there's something massively wrong with a system that punishes success. What might need to be different to prevent that sort of outcome?

The video might be of general interest because it's a brilliant example of someone who's reliably concerned with something to protect.

Comment author: drethelin 05 September 2012 05:57:29PM 7 points [-]

Selling your company to someone for huge amounts of money isn't exactly "punishing" success

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 05 September 2012 06:13:06PM 4 points [-]

It's punishment because he really wanted to keep working with Magic: The Gathering.

Comment author: Salemicus 05 September 2012 09:59:51PM 9 points [-]

But I'm sure he could have kept working with Magic: The Gathering, if he'd been willing to take a couple of steps down the ladder. Alternatively, he could have kept in the same position with Magic: The Gathering if he'd been willing to buy a majority of the stock.

His actual desire seems to have been to run Magic: The Gathering exactly as he wanted, but also for other people to supply the capital to enable this. I'd like other people to buy me a pony too, but I don't regard it as punishment when they don't.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 05 September 2012 10:41:35PM *  0 points [-]

His problem was that he'd traded equity (98% of it) for a lot of the work done on Magic, and the people who held that equity wanted to be able to cash it out.

I don't know whether selling bonds could have helped anything.

Comment author: buybuydandavis 06 September 2012 07:29:44AM 3 points [-]

He sold his rights, then groused when those he sold them to did something other than he wanted with those rights?

Sounds like he wanted to have his company, and sell it too.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 06 September 2012 08:30:45AM *  0 points [-]

I don't think he especially wanted to sell his company, but (at least as I understand the way he told it) , too many of the people who had equity wanted a chance to cash out for him to be comfortable not doing so.

Comment author: RomeoStevens 05 September 2012 07:23:58PM 0 points [-]

He could start his own card game with blackjack and hookers.

Comment author: Rhwawn 05 September 2012 03:45:59PM 6 points [-]

However, I think there's something massively wrong with a system that punishes success. What might need to be different to prevent that sort of outcome?

Letting founders remain permanently in control under all forms of incorporation is very far from profit-maximizing, sorry! The system is working as designed.