nyan_sandwich comments on The raw-experience dogma: Dissolving the “qualia” problem - Less Wrong

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Comment author: [deleted] 14 September 2012 04:59:18PM 2 points [-]

If there is a qualia thing that is in fact a thing in the world, then materialism (the study of things in the world) can explain it.

Maybe there is some barrier to actually figuring something out, like it's really hard and we die before we figure it out. Maybe that's what you meant? Or did you literally mean that it's possible in principle that materialism can't explain some phenomenon?

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 14 September 2012 08:59:15PM 2 points [-]

Or did you literally mean that it's possible in principle that materialism can't explain some phenomenon?

This is what I meant.

I believe that materialism will eventually explain why beings would act just as if certain processes in their nervous system (or equivalent) produced qualia. I am agnostic about whether it will ever explain why those beings actually have qualia, and don't merely act like it.

Comment author: Vaniver 14 September 2012 09:14:39PM *  3 points [-]

I am agnostic about whether it will ever explain why those beings actually have qualia, and don't merely act like it.

I wouldn't call myself as "agnostic" on that- I would claim that it's an unquestion if it doesn't cash out as differing predictions in a materialistic interpretation. (This is sometimes what people mean by agnostic, but typically agnostic describes the "above my pay grade" response, not the "beneath my notice" response.)

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 18 September 2012 09:56:04AM 2 points [-]

It may be relevant for ethically important questions such as "how realistic a simulation of a suffering being can we make without actually causing any real suffering".