No, I have decided that pain is any stimulus - that is, a feeling
I don't accept that all stimuli are feelings. A thermostat is stimulated by changes in temperature, but I don't think it feels the cold.
- that causes a certain kind of behavior. This is not splitting hairs. It is relevant, because you keep telling me that my view doesn't account for feelings, when it is all about feelings!
It is about "feelings" as you define the word, which is not general usage.
What you really mean is that my view doesn't account for qualia, which really just means I'm being consistent, because I don't believe in qualia.
Which is itslef consistent with the fact that your "explanations" of feelign invariabel skirt the central issues.
However, I am never goign to be able to provide you with objective proof of subjective feelings. It is for you to get out of the loop of denying subjectivity because it is not objective enough.
If "subjective experience" means the same thing as "experience", then I don't think there is no such thing as subjective experience. But if "subjective experience" means something different, like "qualia", then this statement doesn't follow at all.
"subjective experience" means "exprerience" and both mean the same thing as "qualia". Which is to say, it is incoherent to me that you could deny qualia and accept experience.
...is because the code has no capacity for introspection - not because it has no capacity for pain.
I don't think introspection is sufficient for feeling, since I can introspect thought as well.
Okay, I've tabooed my words. Now it's your turn. What do you mean by "feeling"?
[Cross-posted.]
1. Defining the problem: The inverted spectrum
A. Attempted solutions to the inverted spectrum.
B. The “substitution bias” of solving the “easy problem of consciousness” instead of the “hard problem.”
2. The false intuition of direct awareness
A. Our sense that the existence of raw experience is self-evident doesn’t show that it is true.
B. Experience can’t reveal the error in the intuition that raw experience exists.
C. We can’t capture the ineffable core of raw experience with language because there’s really nothing there.
D. We believe raw experience exists without detecting it.
3. The conceptual economy of qualia nihilism pays off in philosophical progress
4. Relying on the brute force of an intuition is rationally specious.
Against these considerations, the only argument for retaining raw experience in our ontology is the sheer strength of everyone’s belief in its existence. How much weight should we attach to a strong belief whose validity we can't check? None. Beliefs ordinarily earn a presumption of truth from the absence of empirical challenge, but when empirical challenge is impossible in principle, the belief deserves no confidence.