Bongo comments on Essay-Question Poll: Dietary Choices - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Morendil 30 August 2010 01:08:39PM 4 points [-]

Even granting that it has some positive effect on the suffering of animals (which I've said I'm skeptical of), eliminating meat from my diet is not an unalloyed benefit to the world: it has a cost to me (inconvenience, social stigma, and so on).

So, it's possible that the net benefit of that change in my diet is negative (very small positive effect on the rest of the world, noticeable negative effect on me).

It's more like, "this action does not obviously do good, but I won't rule out that there is a bundle of actions including it that does good in aggregate".

I'm not too surprised the parent got (at least) one upvote, and I will refrain from downvoting it as I'm involved in the discussion; but I think setting up a straw-man from a bad paraphrase of your interlocutor's argument should be frowned upon.

Comment author: Bongo 30 August 2010 01:31:01PM *  1 point [-]

it has some positive effect on the suffering of animals (which I've said I'm skeptical of)

If going veg indeed has negative expected utility for you, my paraphrase indeed was a wrong strawman.

I guess I found this

It's not clear to me that my deciding to switch to a purely vegetarian diet would have the consequence of preventing the suffering or delaying the death of even one animal.

hard to accept. Here's the argument against it.