pjeby comments on Essay-Question Poll: Dietary Choices - Less Wrong

12 Post author: Alicorn 03 May 2009 03:27PM

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Comment author: pjeby 04 May 2009 04:55:01PM 2 points [-]

No, we're encouraging people to express their opinions civilly rather than stick to cached insults. There are ways to criticize that actually contain information.

The survey asked for one's attitude and opinion. If that's AlexU's actual attitude and opinion, watering it down conveys less information, since all answers will now be skewed towards some socially-acceptable mean. Bias towards "nice" is still bias.

Comment author: JGWeissman 04 May 2009 07:05:08PM 14 points [-]

Being civil does not mean watering down. It does involve specifying the actual problem one has rather than use a general insult like "twit". The word "sanctimonious" is not helpful either, if the meaning is that vegetarians/vegans try to impose arbitrary moral standards on others, it is better to say so explicitly, so we know what the actual position is, and can respond to it. (It's been my experience that vegetarians/vegans I read about in the news fit this description, but those I meet in person generally do not, and it is likely a minority of activists get most of the press.)

Being civil should convey more information. It communicates what in particular you don't like rather than general contempt.

Comment author: Cyan 04 May 2009 07:59:01PM 1 point [-]

I was inclined to agree with pjeby, but JGWeissman's comment changed my mind.

Comment author: Emile 05 May 2009 08:25:46PM 0 points [-]

Same here.