robertskmiles comments on New study on choice blindness in moral positions - Less Wrong

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Comment author: simplicio 21 September 2012 11:22:38PM 16 points [-]

One of the most audacious and famous experiments is known informally as "the door study": an experimenter asks a passerby for directions, but is interrupted by a pair of construction workers carrying an unhinged door, concealing another person whom replaces the experimenter as the door passes. Incredibly, the person giving directions rarely notices they are now talking to a completely different person. This effect was reproduced by Derren Brown on British TV (here's an amateur re-enactment).

I think the response of the passerby is quite reasonable, actually. Confronted with a choice between (a) "the person asking me directions was just spontaneously replaced by somebody different, also asking me directions," and (b) "I just had a brain fart," I'll consciously go for (b) every time, especially considering that I make similar mistakes all the time (confusing people with each other immediately after having encountered them). I know that this is probably not a phenomenon that occurs at the conscious level, but we should expect the unconscious level to be even more automatic.

Comment author: robertskmiles 25 September 2012 06:07:42PM *  5 points [-]

A rational prior for "the person asking me directions was just spontaneously replaced by somebody different, also asking me directions" would be very small indeed (that naturally doesn't happen, and psych experiments are rare). A rational prior for "I just had a brain fart" would be much bigger, since that sort of thing happens much more often. So at the end, a good Bayesian would assign a high probability to "I just had a brain fart", and also a high probability to "This is the same person" (though not as high as it would be without the brain fart).

The problem is that the conscious mind never gets the "I just had a brain fart" belief. The error is unconsciously detected and corrected but not reported at all, so the person doesn't even get the "huh, that feels a little off" feeling which is in many cases the screaming alarm bell of unconscious error detection. Rationalists can learn to catch that feeling and examine their beliefs or gather more data, but without it I can't think of a way to beat this effect at all, short of paying close attention to all details at all times.

Comment author: ArisKatsaris 25 September 2012 06:59:54PM 4 points [-]

And a sufficiently large change gets noticed...

Comment author: Decius 26 September 2012 05:08:31PM 1 point [-]

Really? Did any of them refuse to give the camera to the new people, because they weren't the owners of the camera?

Comment author: Alicorn 26 September 2012 05:34:24PM 1 point [-]

If you watch the video closely, the camera actually prints out a picture of the old guys, so the old guys are clearly at least involved with the camera in some way.