TimS comments on Any existential risk angles to the US presidential election? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: TimS 20 September 2012 05:18:58PM -1 points [-]

Have you ever read any of the Vorkosigan saga by Lois Bujold?

Just curious whether you think that the government of Barrayar is an improvement current Western governments.

Comment author: asr 20 September 2012 10:40:03PM 3 points [-]

This is an ambiguous question. At the time the novels are set, Barrayar has a popular, clever, benevolent, and capable emperor. A longer historical view would include a number of tyrants and devastating civil wars.

Comment author: TimS 20 September 2012 11:46:04PM -1 points [-]

So a great case study for the theory and practice of monarchy?

Comment author: asr 21 September 2012 12:23:29AM 4 points [-]

I think fictional evidence isn't terribly convincing. Note also that monarchy in the current era is constantly at risk of turning into either democracy or tyranny. "Ancient blood" hasn't been a reliable source of legitimacy since 1789. As a result, monarchs need either elections or raw force to keep their grip. And tyranny is unstable and tends to result in great wasted effort in preventing coups and insurrections.

Comment author: billswift 21 September 2012 07:13:57PM 2 points [-]

I think fictional evidence isn't terribly convincing.

Indeed. Try Hans-Herman Hoppe's Democracy: The God that Failed or Graham's The Case Against Democracy. Neither is all that convincing that monarchy is much better than democracy, but they make a decent case that it is at least marginally better. Note that Hoppe's book obviously started as a collection of articles, it is seriously repetitive. Both books are short and fairly easy reads.

Comment author: [deleted] 20 September 2012 09:31:46PM 0 points [-]

No I haven't, is it a good read?

Comment author: asr 20 September 2012 10:38:20PM 1 point [-]

They're widely considered outstanding science fiction. Four of the Vorkosigan novels have won Hugo awards.

Comment author: [deleted] 20 September 2012 10:49:12PM *  0 points [-]

Cool, I will add it to my fiction reading list.