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Comment author: Jayson_Virissimo 27 September 2012 09:33:38AM 2 points [-]

Aesthetic value: objective or subjective?

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Comment author: thomblake 27 September 2012 04:41:21PM 4 points [-]

This is one of those cases where I'm not sure exactly what "objective" and "subjective" are supposed to mean. Probably 2-place words, but probably objective ones.

Comment author: Vaniver 27 September 2012 02:48:17PM 2 points [-]

I went with Other because I think aesthetic judgments are mostly the same for humans, but will be whatever evolution spits out for non-humans. There's some objective (aesthetic value is a product of evolution) and some subjective (because it's a product of evolution, it's environment-dependent and subject to variation).

For all I know, though, that position is Accept:subjective, since 2-place words would be a radical new insight to most philosophers who pick Accept:objective.

Comment author: hankx7787 28 September 2012 02:39:14PM 2 points [-]

Of course this question is universally (snerk) misunderstood as "objective" = "universal", which are not actually synonymous.

Comment author: komponisto 27 September 2012 03:58:59PM 1 point [-]

Other: a complex weighted mixture of both, and varying according to context. Similar to ethical value.

Comment author: pragmatist 27 September 2012 11:42:27AM 1 point [-]

Other: I'm genuinely undecided about this. I don't think I lean substantially in either direction.

Comment author: RichardHughes 27 September 2012 09:45:09PM -2 points [-]

I'm not sure how anyone could argue that aesthetic value is objective when humans regularly disagree about the aesthetic value of things. It's a pretty stern counterexample.

Comment author: DanArmak 27 September 2012 11:56:53PM 7 points [-]

Humans regularly disagree about lots of objective things, because they're wrong about them.