Eliezer_Yudkowsky comments on Rationality Quotes October 2012 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Eugine_Nier 02 October 2012 12:36:03AM 5 points [-]

Experience trumps brilliance.

— Thomas Sowell

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 02 October 2012 01:00:46AM 16 points [-]

This belief seems to me very convenient for the brilliant, implying that they got where they are by hard work and properly deserve everything they have. Of course brilliant people also have to put in hard work, but their return on investment is much higher than many other contenders who may have put in even more work for lower total returns. Just-world hypothesis; life is not this fair. And while I do go about preaching the virtue of Hufflepuff, I also go about saying that people should try to Huffle where they have comparative advantage.

Comment author: Vaniver 02 October 2012 01:58:53AM 12 points [-]

My reading of the quote is that empiricism is superior to rationalism (the old philosophical schools, not the sort we discuss here). If I have a proof that my bridge will hold a thousand pounds, and it breaks under a hundred, then the experiment trumps the proof.

Comment author: BerryPick6 02 October 2012 06:18:48PM 0 points [-]

If I have a proof that my bridge will hold a thousand pounds,

By "proof", do you mean experimental evidence, or armchair rationalization?

Comment author: MixedNuts 02 October 2012 07:06:25PM 2 points [-]

A correct mathematical proof based on an experimentally verified model of bridges and seemingly obvious assumptions about your particular bridge.

Comment author: BerryPick6 02 October 2012 07:14:03PM 0 points [-]

experimentally verified

That doesn't sound like the sort of thing a rationalist (in the sense Vaniver was using) would care for at all.

Comment author: David_Gerard 02 October 2012 09:05:40PM 3 points [-]

In practical terms, though, experience does frequently trump brilliance. This does not mean this is a good thing to have happened, only that it does. Experience makes one more likely to be good at competition.