wedrifid comments on Rationality Quotes October 2012 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: taelor 03 October 2012 01:39:31AM 20 points [-]

The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head.

--Terry Pratchett, Hogfather

Comment author: wedrifid 03 October 2012 11:23:44AM 6 points [-]

The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head.

Pretty sure the lies are out there too. I think I prefer Scully.

Comment author: ArisKatsaris 03 October 2012 11:31:31AM 8 points [-]

The quote can be said to mean that reality ("out there") doesn't lie -- falsehoods are in the map, not in the territory. But truth is what corresponds to reality...

Comment author: RichardKennaway 03 October 2012 01:16:34PM 15 points [-]

Other people's maps are part of my territory.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 03 October 2012 09:42:09PM 5 points [-]

Quibble: "Your" territory?

Comment author: DanArmak 03 October 2012 10:04:49PM 1 point [-]

This point is also relevant to Eliezer's post on truth as correspondance. A belief can start unentangled with reality, but once people talk about it, the belief itself becomes part of the territory.

Comment author: wedrifid 03 October 2012 09:51:49PM 1 point [-]

Yes, this.

Other people's expressions of verbal symbols that are not even part of their map are also part of the territory.