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Comment author: thomblake 02 October 2012 06:43:37PM 4 points [-]

Well, there are a lot of hits for "post-utopian" on Google, and they don't seem to be references to you.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 02 October 2012 06:46:29PM 3 points [-]

I think there were fewer Google references back when I first made up the word... I will happily accept nominations for either an equally portentous-sounding but unused term, or a portentous-sounding real literary term that is known not to mean anything.

Comment author: [deleted] 02 October 2012 07:43:02PM 13 points [-]

Has anyone ever told you your writing style is Alucentian to the core? Especially in the way your municardist influences constrain the transactional nuances of your structural ephamthism.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 02 October 2012 09:03:31PM 4 points [-]

This looks promising. Is it real, or did you verify that the words don't mean anything standard?

Comment author: Jonathan_Elmer 02 October 2012 07:32:24PM 6 points [-]

Coming up with a made up word will not solve this problem. If the word describes the content of the author's stories then there will be sensory experiences that a reader can expect when reading those stories.

Comment author: Scottbert 03 October 2012 04:35:09PM 4 points [-]

I think the idea is that the hypothetical teacher is making students memorize passwords instead of teaching the meaning of the concept.

Comment author: lukeprog 11 January 2013 07:15:29AM *  2 points [-]

post-catalytic
psycho-elemental
anti-ludic
anarcho-hegemonic
desublimational

Comment author: fubarobfusco 11 January 2013 12:36:50PM 1 point [-]

"Cogno-intellectual" was the catchphrase for this when I was in school. See Abrahams et al.:

We invite you to take part in a large-scale language experiment. It concerns the word "cogno-intellectual." This noble word can be used as an adjective or as a noun. We just invented it. The fact that "cogno-intellectual" has no meaning makes it a useful word. Meaning nothing, it can be used for anything.

Here is the experiment. Use the word "cogno-intellectual" in written and oral communications with colleagues, especially with colleagues whom you do not know well. If you are a student, use it with your most impressable teachers. If you are a teacher, use it with your most impressable administrators. Use it at meetings. Use it with significant strangers. Use it with abandon. Use it with panache. The main thing is: use it.

Comment author: BerryPick6 11 January 2013 12:44:33PM *  3 points [-]

To see the word used spectacularly, check out this paper: www.es.ele.tue.nl/~tbasten/fun/rhetoric_logic.pdf

Comment author: lukeprog 11 January 2013 05:39:10PM 1 point [-]

LW comments use the Markdown syntax.

Comment author: MugaSofer 11 January 2013 02:38:51PM -2 points [-]

Was that meant to be a link?

Comment author: BerryPick6 11 January 2013 03:06:54PM 0 points [-]

It was. I can't get the 'show help' menu to pop-up, so I feel frustratingly inept right now. :)

Comment author: MugaSofer 13 January 2013 10:36:11AM *  0 points [-]

Put the text you want to display in square brackets, and the URL you want to go to in regular brackets. That should do it.

Comment author: thomblake 02 October 2012 07:42:31PM 2 points [-]

I don't think literature has any equivalent to metasyntactic variables. Still, placeholder names might help - perhaps they are examples of "post-kadigan" literature?

Comment author: [deleted] 02 October 2012 08:16:21PM *  0 points [-]

http://codepad.org/H6MaC84M

Comment author: thomblake 03 October 2012 02:00:29PM 1 point [-]

I think those might all be real terms.

Comment author: DaFranker 03 October 2012 02:19:23PM -1 points [-]

I think most literature teachers I've had would ignore the question entirely and use all those terms anyway with whatever meaning they thought fits best.

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