Peterdjones comments on The Useful Idea of Truth - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Peterdjones 02 October 2012 08:10:39PM 0 points [-]

What an odd thing to say. I can tell the difference between untestable sentences, and that's all I need to refute the LP verification principle. Stipulating a defintion of "meaning" that goes beyond linguistic tractability doens't solve anything , and stipulating that people shouldn't want to understand sentences about invisible gorillas doens't either.

Comment author: shminux 02 October 2012 08:32:57PM 2 points [-]

invisible gorillas

Seems like we are not on the same page re the definition of meaningful. I expect "invisible gorillas" to be a perfectly meaningful term in some contexts.

Comment author: Peterdjones 02 October 2012 08:34:41PM 1 point [-]

I don't follow that, because it is not clear whether you are using the vanilla, linguistic notion of "meaning" or the stipulated LPish version,

Comment author: shminux 02 October 2012 09:24:53PM *  0 points [-]

I am not a philosopher and not a linguist, to me meaning of a word or a sentence is the information that can be extracted from it by the recipient, which can be a person or a group of people, or a computer, maybe even an AI. Thus it is not something absolute. I suppose it is closest to an internal interpretation. What is your definition?

Comment author: Peterdjones 03 October 2012 09:18:16AM 1 point [-]

I am specifically trying not to put forward an idiosyncratic definition.