bryjnar comments on Skill: The Map is Not the Territory - Less Wrong

49 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 06 October 2012 09:59AM

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Comment author: bryjnar 04 October 2012 11:13:27AM 0 points [-]

As someone else engaged with mainstream philosophy, I'd like to mention that I personally think that direction of fit is one of the biggest red herrings in modern philosophy. It's pretty much just an unhelpful metaphor. Just sayin'.

Comment author: Decius 06 October 2012 12:13:50AM 2 points [-]

I never saw it as a real 'model', just a way of clarifying definitions, and making statements such as "I believe that {anything not a matter of fact}" null. It provides a way to distinguish between "I don't believe in invisible dragons in my basement." and "I don't believe in {immoral action}". I suspect the original intention was to validate a philosopher who got fed up with someone who hid behind 'I don't believe in that' in a discussion, after which the philosopher responded with evidence that the subject under discussion was factual.

Comment author: pragmatist 04 October 2012 12:44:01PM 1 point [-]

It's really not my area at all, so I don't really have any well-developed opinions on this. My comment wasn't meant to be an endorsement of the model, I was just pointing out a similarity with a view in the mainstream literature. From a pretty uninformed perspective, it does seem to me that the direction-to-fit thing doesn't really get at what's important about the distinct functional roles of belief and desire, so I'm inclined to agree with your assessment.

Comment author: bryjnar 04 October 2012 06:46:31PM 0 points [-]

Yeah, I did realise that you weren't necessarily supporting it, I just wanted to make it clear that it's not orthodoxy in mainstream philosophy! Sorry if it came off as a bit critical.