daenerys comments on Skill: The Map is Not the Territory - Less Wrong

49 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 06 October 2012 09:59AM

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Comment author: [deleted] 04 October 2012 07:54:55PM 3 points [-]

I couldn't think of a koan-y question, but here is a discussion prompt.

Let's make a Worksheet!

Let's come up with some practice examples of the 2x2 matrix (such as the "Being Lost or Not" example in the OP), that people can fill out. The examples should be short (single paragraph) everyday type problems that people can relate to. Submit examples in the comments. I'll take the best and put them in a worksheet in Google docs, and link to it here.

That way, when people in the future come and read this post, they have an activity to help them practice it. Also, people can use them at meetups if they want. Worksheets, of course, aren't the BEST way to learn, but they're better than nothing.

Comment author: DaFranker 04 October 2012 08:23:15PM 13 points [-]

You're at work, and you find yourself wanting very badly to make a certain, particularly funny-but-possibly-taken-as-offensive remark to your boss. The comment feels particularly witty, quick-minded and insightful.

(trying to think of stuff that's fairly common and happens relatively often in everyday life)

Comment author: Alejandro1 04 October 2012 08:34:42PM 9 points [-]

You are leaving your home in the morning, to return in the evening; your day will involve quite a bit of walking and public transport. It is now warm and sunny, but you know that a temperature drop with heavy rains is forecasted for the afternoon. Looking out at the window and thinking of the walk in the sun and the crowded bus, you don't feel like carrying around a coat and umbrella. You start thinking maybe the forecast is wrong...

Comment author: [deleted] 05 October 2012 07:35:14PM *  3 points [-]

I put a pocket umbrella and/or a foldable raincoat into my handbag. Duh.

Comment author: DaFranker 05 October 2012 07:41:18PM 3 points [-]

Carrying around a handbag in the first place happens to be something that I find annoying and risky. I'm prone to leaving it in easy-to-notice, easy-to-steal places or outright forgetting it in some public location.

Comment author: [deleted] 05 October 2012 08:07:29PM 0 points [-]

Now that I think about that, that happened to me exactly once (as far as I can remember) with a handbag, though it happens to me very often¹ with other items such as keys, jackets, sweatshirts and sometimes my iPod. (I usually² eventually manage to recover them, but not always.) I guess that's because I'm more likely to immediately notice that I'm missing my bag than that I'm missing my keys.


  1. Around once per month in average.

  2. Around 90% of the times.

Comment author: Alejandro1 05 October 2012 07:41:35PM 2 points [-]

Yes, that is clearly the optimal solution. I was assuming you don't own those two items, or that you don't have a handbag the right size or don't want to use it--more plausible for a man that for a woman, I guess.

Comment author: [deleted] 06 October 2012 06:53:12PM 5 points [-]

What immediately comes to mind for me:

You are knitting a fitted garment. Let's say it's a sweater. You've been knitting for awhile, and you''re starting to get concerned it won't fit the intended recipient. You can't tell for sure, because your needle is too short to fully stretch it out, but you just have this feeling. This feeling you hope is wrong, because you don't want to rip out and re-do all the ribbing you've just knit...

Comment author: EvelynM 08 October 2012 01:36:23AM 1 point [-]

That's time for a new set of knitting needles, and empiricisim. I have 60in cables.

Comment author: shminux 05 October 2012 08:27:46PM *  4 points [-]

You are an ex-smoker overcome with a sudden craving after a particularly bad day, and your helpful friend offers you a cigarette "have just this one smoke!" to relieve tension. You know that anything less than a complete abstinence has a chance of kickstarting the habit.